tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post7108059074038867088..comments2023-11-02T05:04:59.172-04:00Comments on Third Base Politics: Liberal attack on Kasich's Kvamme appointment a complete and utter failNick (aka Bytor)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15826772166599084105noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-16076077569142621852011-03-21T23:14:23.180-04:002011-03-21T23:14:23.180-04:00Strickland violated the constitution. Your defense...Strickland violated the constitution. Your defense is that Strickland can't be expected to know the basic constitutional provisions to the appointments he makes and submit them for confirmation? Even with a team of lawyers in his office? Really?Nick (aka Bytor)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15826772166599084105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-30305306906002361122011-03-21T11:02:11.097-04:002011-03-21T11:02:11.097-04:00OakieDokie-
Taking your own hypothetical, would y...OakieDokie-<br /><br />Taking your own hypothetical, would you and this site not complain if Strickland had made such unconstitutional appointments?<br /><br />Kvamme's qualifications are overstated. He apparently wasn't savvy enough to avoid being scammed by American Greetings and Bob Evans.Modernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00096376710345315767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-49438299547611578172011-03-21T11:00:04.131-04:002011-03-21T11:00:04.131-04:00For the record, your defense is that Kasich can be...For the record, your defense is that Kasich can be excused because he doesn't know Ohio's constitution? Wow.<br /><br />Yes, it was dumb that Strickland's Cabinet secretary never submitted the paperwork to the Senate for their consideration. She should have been fired for it.<br /><br />But again, this wasn't about being petty. It was about enforcing the constitution.<br /><br />Kasich's press statement disputes this. But you just admitted to it. Kasich violated the constitution. Your defense is that Kasich can't be expected to know the basic constitutional provisions to the appointments he makes? Even with a team of lawyers in his office? Really?Modernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00096376710345315767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-48207509025564538062011-03-21T08:37:35.465-04:002011-03-21T08:37:35.465-04:00JungDem,
he removed Kvamme from his cabinet, ther...JungDem,<br /><br />he removed Kvamme from his cabinet, therefore he fixed the situation and abided by the Constitution.<br /><br />I'd advise the folks on your side to follow your advice when they whine about Strickland's appointments whom Ted never submitted for Senate confirmation.Nick (aka Bytor)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15826772166599084105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-31176539072136514072011-03-21T08:26:58.523-04:002011-03-21T08:26:58.523-04:00One party asks another party to play by the rules....One party asks another party to play by the rules. The second party decides not to. members of the second party point out the rules, question privately and publicly if the rules should be followed. Finally, the rules are followed and instead of the rule breaker being appropriately embarassed and saying, "My bad," it's the people that pointed out the rules who are the evil doers?<br /><br />I guess you missed the "politics" in the RGA advertisements that BBQd Ted for the outsourcing of a rebate program? But outsourcing an ENTIRE DEPARTMENT against Constitutional rules, that should just be swept under the table.<br /><br />You should have left this one alone. The measure of a man is not necessarily his mistakes, but how he admits and ammends those mistakes. People have far more respect for someone who owns up rather than blaming a tattle taler. You either respect the Constitution of Ohio, as you are SWORN TO DO, or you don't. You don't get to whine when you get caught breaking rules. No matter who you are.JungDemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-65301501774311746642011-03-19T19:45:31.430-04:002011-03-19T19:45:31.430-04:00The way I see it the Dems wanted to prevent a very...The way I see it the Dems wanted to prevent a very capable businessman from helping create and maintain jobs in Ohio. Personally, I think that is a bunch of crap.<br /><br />If Kvamme had been appointed to a cabinet position by Strickland, with express instructions to increase union numbers in Ohio, does anyone think Democrats would have complained?OakieDokienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-26739565378784626392011-03-19T16:17:41.170-04:002011-03-19T16:17:41.170-04:00Aww.
He was obviously unaware of the constitutio...Aww.<br /><br /> He was obviously unaware of the constitutional issue when he made the appointment. Yet, you simply cared about embarrassing him with the goal of firing Kvamme.<br /><br /> The issue is now resolved and you end up looking petty. How many times did Ted Strickland violate the constitution by not having his appointments confirmed by the Senate? Seems like that was more than one appointment and it went that way for FAR longer than 2 months, didn't it?Nick (aka Bytor)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15826772166599084105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7743530438680774250.post-12678497076545407182011-03-19T12:02:39.554-04:002011-03-19T12:02:39.554-04:00Kasich violates the constitution, gets called on i...Kasich violates the constitution, gets called on it, denies it for two months, and then essentially admits that he was wrong the whole time, and the LEFT has egg on its face? You seriously could be a propaganda minister for a third-world dictator.<br /><br />You link to my post saying that this whole thing was about politics... except there's nothing in the post that supports that proposition. Quite the opposite.<br /><br />And by linking to my post, you reveal one of the other major fallacies of your diatribe: the NONPARTISAN Legislative Service Commission concluded Kasich was violating the constitution with Kvamme appointment. It was a constitutional issue, not a partisan one (except to partisan folks like you who just cannot comprehend that Kasich is capable of doing anything wrong... kind of like being duped in giving millions to American Greetings and Bob Evans although there was no real risk they'd leave the State.)<br /><br />So we have egg on our face because Kasich cares SO much about giving his maxed out donor venture capitalist friend inside information about Ohio that he's willing to create ridiculous reduncies in Ohio's government simply to keep him? Okay, dude, whatever.<br /><br />I agree, Kasich's handling of the Kvamme situation was a GIANT FAIL. He violated his oath of office the moment he took it.<br /><br />You can spew all the bravado you want, but check the public opinion polls, Kasich's getting run over by his own incompetence.Modernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00096376710345315767noreply@blogger.com