Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Issue 2 defeated.

Alternate headline: here come the layoffs and the tax hikes!

Watch how many public employees, including lots of firefighters and police officers, are laid off in the not too distant future.

Kevin OBrien from the Plain Dealer said it well:
Advice to low-on-the-totem-pole union members: Don't bother celebrating. Do get your resumes in order.

While voters may have supported you on this issue, I'm betting in the vast majority of cases that they will NOT support you by voting for higher taxes to pay your increasingly expensive and generous benefits.

Voters had three choices: reform, higher taxes or layoffs. Since I see most school levies are failing, it looks like they chose "layoffs". It didn't have to be like this.


  1. Well kreskin, seeing how you were dead right on how issue 2 was going to do, then hi must be right about what's going to happen next...

  2. We largely avoided making predictions MJL. And we posted about every poll showing it behind.

    As for what happens next, that's a matter of math.

  3. Or maybe, just maybe the governor will actually attempt to negotiate instead of force feeding his next bill through. I know that its a novel concept, but maybe the philosophy of get on the bus or get run over by it isn't such a good way to run. State government

  4. MJL: "...just maybe the governor will actually attempt to negotiate instead of force feeding his next bill through."

    I guess that was a joke? Let the record show during the entire SB-5 debate last summer the democrats offered no amendments or "better ideas" -- too late now.

    I voted for Governor Kasich and Senator Shannon Jones but they mishandled this entire bill/law from the jump -- but what really killed it was back-stabbing RINO's and Union money mostly from out of Ohio.

    OK they got their win -- congratulations!! But remember the old rule: be careful of what you wish for.

    I say not one nickel in new taxes to pay public employees. We need the money to generate private sector jobs.

    I sorry about the pensions -- public employees and teachers have families too. But they screwed themselves tonight. Best of luck to them.

  5. There will be no negotiations necessary. The public employee unions can drop dead. They blew their chance to save their jobs, tough luck. If I were Kasich, I'd just let them suffer.

    I hope they all show the same level of unity at the soup kitchen as they did earlier today.

  6. "We largely avoided making predictions MJL. And we posted about every poll showing it behind."

    You omitted, and then screamed like a stuck pig about how those polls were totally unreliable and overstating the opposition to Issue 2.

    There, I fixed it for you.

  7. Made no predictions... except that Issue 2 was trending towards passage... but other than that, you're right.

  8. Modern you are so dishonest its scary.

    Stating that the gap was closing, when those polls came out, was not a prediction. It was a statement of fact.

    When the gap opened back up, we called it bad news. We didn't omit or ignore any polls, did we?

    Sometimes I'm not sure if you are dishonest, or just plain have trouble reading.

    Which is it?

  9. Well, I think the important point is that, barring some kind divine intervention, the Ohio voters,(and tax payers) including the public employee sector, shot themselves in the foot yesterday.

    Note to the progressives and democrats, the tooth fairy will NOT be coming to the rescue -- most likely anyway. And the State of Ohio cannot print money or run a deficit so....

  10. Awwwwwwwwwwwww, all your whining over the last year, all your crying over the last year, all your lying over the last year, all for nothing.

    You lose.

    Now go throw a tempter trantrum.


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